The Harold Rosenthal Interview (Part 4)

[ Final -- Continued from Part 3, here.]

We now pick up after a dispute during which the tape

recorder has been turned off. Obviously where the "W"

appears, those are my words. Where the "R" appears,

that indicates comment.

"W". Mr. Rosenthal, when true history is permitted to

be published at large -- when the truth actually

surfaces -- what do you expect the people of the world

will do to you Jews'?

R. I thought we had concluded this interview.

W. I'm concerned -- and this question seems to require

your answer.

R. We were all finished White, and now you start to

pump me again. I've already given you the 'tables of

stone' and yet you want more.  Never mind -- you

wouldn't understand anyway -- you Christians!!!

W. So now you damn me because I'm a Christian. I

thought we had tried to keep this on a business-like

basis did we not?

R. (Mumbled exclamation by Rosenthal!!)

W. Whatever that is -- or means, you're using words

I've never heard before. Are you speaking English?

R. I said -------.

W. Will you spell it?

R. (Rosenthal spells M-I-S-C-H-N-A and briefly says

it is from the basics of the Talmud). Mr. R.

continues: Let's not dwell on this. We're not getting

anywhere -- besides we had concluded things and that

ends our agreement.

W. Are you afraid to answer the question I posed?

R. Who the hell do you think I am -- I'm not afraid to

answer any question but I've given you enough

information for a book.

W. Did I not pay you as per our agreement?

R. Yeah -- sure -- but again you're wanting more. All

right, you want my opinion as to what the people of

the world are going to think when history is written.

W. Well, I didn't pose the question exactly like that,

but go ahead.

R. I don't give a damn what the people will think.

Besides, whenever that happens you and I will be dead.

Plain dead. Does that satisfy you?

W. There are two or three questions among my notes

here Mr. Rosenthal which have yet to be answered and

one is quite important.

R. What is that?

W. The story about the six million Jews supposedly

cremated or murdered by the Nazis.

R. What about it?

W. Do you know who or what Jewish organization created

that big lie?

R. No, I don't know anything about its authenticity. I

don't think it's too important anyway.

W. Mr. Rosenthal, you know better than that, What

about the younger generation who is growing up

believing this big lie? And you say it's not

important!!

R. It was an outgrowth of the war and we all know that

Hitler hated the Jews so someone, somewhere, thought

of exaggerating the number. We know that many, many

Jews were killed by the Nazis.

W. I'm sure you know that when World War II broke out

there were less than a quarter of a million Jews in

ALL of Germany. Many thousands had already left

Germany.

R. So what? As I said before, the Jewish people are

the cleverest people in the world. So somebody thought

up a big number and perhaps it grew until now the

number of Jews killed is six million. We have control

of the news media and that is the great difference.

Otherwise your people could tell YOUR big lie.

W. So you brush it off that lightly. Something of such

enormity...

Mr. R. interrupted here saying -- My people have been

taught to give consideration and attention to our

teachers rather than to the words of your people and

laws.

W. You're living in America, Mr. Rosenthal, It is our

duty to uphold the laws of our Country. Your religion

teaches you that you may take an oath such as when

being inducted into political office -- and if the

oath displeases you, you can deny silently the fact

you have taken that oath. Now I have copies of the

Jewish document -- called the Kol Nidre and I have

proven their authenticity. (The Kol Nidre ("all vows")

is found in the Talmud book Nedarim (Vows), and is

recited each year in the synagogue on the Day of

Atonement It allows all future obligations. oaths or

pledges a Jew may engage in to "be deemed absolved,

forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect."

This allows Jews to lie, subvert, cheat, etc.

R. Well -- all Jews don't practice that oath business,

I'm sure.

W. But they do practice it, do they not -- with the

Rabbi's approval.

R. To some extent. Perhaps when it is helpful to the

individual.

W. Is that not sinful?

R. Maybe to your way of thinking. I've told you -- you

and I are different. We are different people. Our

beliefs are entirely different. We have been raised

that way for many centuries so it is not a sin for us

to take any oath and break it. It's our teaching.

(This point on the difference of character has been

made by many other Jewish writers and statesmen, and

is well supported in history and science. Yet,

ironically, Christians continue to believe the Jewish

lie that "we are all the same" or "equal.")

W. I've possibly saved the most important question of

all until now.

R. Listen, White, if you're going on any further, my

time is money. We made an agreement and you're

extending it beyond reason. You have it all on tapes

and remember that we agreed for you to take whatever

you want from the tapes and your notes -- but no

reproduction of the tapes under any circumstances.

They are to be destroyed. If you violate this White,

we'll cut your balls off.

W. Who are WE?

R. Just get smart and you'll find out. You don't want

any trouble and I don't either. You keep our agreement

and no one gets hurt!! Now give me the rest of my

money. Okay?

W. I intend to keep our agreement to the letter and

you have my word of honor that these tapes will not go

any further than my use in the preparation of the

story. There is no misunderstanding. We agree on that

and I'll keep my word. You'll get your money in a

minute.

R. I have friends White -- I know a lot of people and

I don't want them to be reading things attributed to

me that I didn't say. I don't give a damn what you or

anybody else thinks -- but I don't want lies printed

-- only the questions and answers of this interview.

W. We understand each other perfectly in that regard,

Mr. Rosenthal. Now, please, this question!!

R. Shoot. But remember I need Las Vegas money.

W. Surely you must know somewhere in your schooling,

or you have some kind of personal feeling or

understanding as to WHEN and WHY the story began that

the Jews are God's Chosen People.

R. We ARE God's chosen people.

W. Do you really believe that Mr. Rosenthal?

R. Maybe I can explain or perhaps Jake could give you

a better answer...

W. Who is Jake?

R. Jake Javits -- you know, my associate. He's the man

that I work for and he's a pretty smart guy. Plenty

smart. His answer might serve your purpose for the

story better.

W. I want your answer!

R. . . . You and we actually have a different God.

W. Is that the answer to the Jews being God's chosen

people?

R. To our god we are chosen ones. We are taught that

from our childhood.

W. That is an evasive answer. You know what I mean

when I pose such a question and I don't believe your

reply or your explanation.

R. Okay. I don't give a damn what you believe.

W. Do your people believe that Jesus Christ was a Jew?

R. Hell! We're not going back to that again are we?

We've already gone over that.

W. That was before the tape machine was ever turned

on. I don't think we recorded your reply to this

question.

R. Well, I can't answer for all Jews. I guess you're

asking what Jews throughout the world believe?

Yes.

R. Jake could answer that better than I.

W. Please, I don't want Senator Javits' answer to

anything. I want your answer.

R. White, I know what you're searching for. I've known

from the beginning but that's all right. You and we

are so apart. You're another breed. You're not our

kind. It's not secret that we do not respect you, and

of your kind. (Genesis 3:15).

W. Are you referring to just our kind as 'Christians'?

R. No, you gentiles -- all of you are our enemies.

When I was a little boy, just a kid, very young, we

were taught very wisely. Many centuries ago when the

Jews were persecuted in almost every country and

driven out of so many countries -- some of the

governments, I cannot remember exactly whether it was

the government of France or Spain. Anyway, the

government demanded that the Jews must become

Christians or be expelled from the country.

W. Yes, I recall reading of this many times.

R. Was it France or Spain.

W. Possibly both but I vividly remember the story of

Queen Isabella of Spain -- how patient she was with

the Jews -- always giving them the benefit of doubt --

until such time as her eyes were opened completely to

the deceptions of the Jews. But please go on.

R. Anyway, the Jews at that time had a very wise Rabbi

leader, a world leader, and his advice was respected

throughout the world. He said that the Jews must

pretend to become Christians and bide their time and

make real sacrifices if necessary. We have always been

ready to sacrifice a few thousand Jews in exchange for

world leadership. (This was the plan of the Jews who

instigated WW II. Some Jews were sacrificed so that

the "persecution" propaganda could continue.) It is a

small price and there is nothing wrong with that. I

was taught that we Jews must become lawyers so we

could control and strangle the courts, and even the

judges, unless they were Jews. We should become

doctors and teachers and leaders in all the churches

-- and this goal has almost been fully accomplished.

I said it before and I'll say it now -- that we will

have complete, I say complete control, throughout the

entire world possibly before I die. We are very

successful in keeping you gentiles confused. We create

confusion. (The word Babylon in Hebrew is Babel and

means confusion. The Jews are masters at confusion

because they are the ringleaders of the system known

as "Mystery Babylon.") You're not stupid White. You

know that the Jews are successful because of our

unity. We die for one another if necessary. We

generously finance our own, so it is understandable

how we govern not only in this country. We direct

American foreign affairs. We are the super government

of the world. Is that enough?

W. Go on. I find what you are saying most interesting.

Please go on.

R. We are the most powerful international body of

people in the world! Do you believe that?

W. You speak with such confidence that I . . .

Mr. R. interrupted -- We can destroy any country's

economy without their even being aware of it -- if we

want to. I think this is what you want to hear. (Most

Americans are totally unaware that by the Federal

Reserve system their money has been stolen and the

economy debauched.)

W. I'm expecting you to be truthful with me Mr.

Rosenthal.

R. Well, it's true. We're smart -- we are powerful and

at the proper time we will mix up your gentile women

with the Blacks and in 50 years you'll be all mixed

up. Niggers love to s---w your white women and we

encourage it by using them to our advantage.

W. I recall your saying that the Blacks serve a

purpose.

R. Yes, we will use them to a great advantage. (It was

primarily by Jewish merchant ships and Jewish-run

slave auctions that the blacks got to America.)

W. And try to destroy them after you have used them I

presume?

R. If necessary. Yes! You and I know they're inferior

people, a dumb race, but can be useful with the use of

money. I mean real big money. Niggers will do anything

for money. So, when the time comes -- and you might

even live to see it -- we will have that complete

control while you stupid Christians are waiting for

your Christ, the impostor, to return as your savior.

W. You sound bitter.

R. Not at all. Why should I be bitter? We are on top!!

W. And when this whole sordid story becomes known, the

result will be an aroused citizenry -- an angry

citizenry who will want to destroy you.

R. How? I ask you how? YOU can't reach the people. We

have it all under such control that no one -- no one

or no-body can reach people unless it is done through

our media control. (Who has had control of the mass

media in the 20th century (1976)-- Chairman of ABC 

L. Goldenson, President of CBS -- James H. Rosenfield,

Chairman of RCS -- David Sarnoff, Chief Executive of

NBC -- Fred Silverman, President of PBS -- Lawrence

Grossman, Chairman of Time -- Arthur Heiskell, Editor

of U.S. News & World Report -- Marvin Stone, Chief

Executive of Dow Jones -- Warren H. Phillips, Editor

of Newsweek -- Lester Bernstein, President of TV Guide

-- Walter Annenberg, President of New York Times --

Sulzberger family, TV program producer -- Norman Lear

-- these and more all are Jews!!) We have it sewed

up!! We have infected your churches completely and we

now control the school system in the United States. It

is a reality that we have complete control of

organized Christianity. Almost anywhere -- completely.

W. I find so many things you say to be repulsive. The

way you say things . . .

R. It's what you wanted to hear or you wouldn't have

paid good money for this interview.

W. So long as you are truthful with me -- but you

still haven't answered that question I posed long back

-- do you believe that Jesus Christ was a Jew?

R. As I said, Jake could give you a really intelligent

answer. I know that most of our friends, kids and

people I grew up with -- in fact all of our friends --

I'd say all of them, don't believe Christ was a Jew.

He was an impostor and millions of people all over the

world now believe that Christianity was founded on

untruth and deliberate incorrect translations of your

Bible. Christ was a fraud. Even the National Council

of Churches agree that there were false translations

of the book your people respect. It's built on lies.

[This comment can hardly be regarded as coming from a

true Christian source since the National Council of

Churches was organized by Jews and its theology is

controlled by them.]

W. According to the latest scholarly research, your

ancestors are not Israelites but Mongolians and

Asiatics from Eastern Europe and Western Asia, so your

ancestors were thousands of miles from the Holy Land.

They never, ever saw the Holy Land -- proving that

your people were not the chosen people of God.

R. So what? What difference does it make?

W. We have been taught the big lie for many years that

Jews are God's Chosen people, so it does make a

difference. A very grave difference.

R. What grave difference?

W. Does it not prove that the great majority of Jews

today are Khazar in origin. Your ancestors never trod

the lands where Christ walked. They never knew

Jerusalem and Palestine so how could . . . (Mr. R.

interrupted)

R. (shouting) What the hell difference does it make

now?

W. I find so many things that you have said as being

repulsive and your arrogant manner in boasting, as it

were, to admittedly being a part of this gigantic . .

. this heinous plot against mankind -- and at times,

you attempt to brush things off by saying 'what

difference does it make'. So much of what you have

admitted staggers me, in fact, I lack the words . . .

(Mr. R. interrupts here).

R. That's because you're a gentile. You don't

understand. You never will! Until it's too late and my

hope, personally, is that the American people do

not... (Mr. R. paused here).

W. There is so much of what you have said, that as an

individual, people may not believe you -- they may not

believe this interview...(Mr. R. interrupts).

R. That is why we have the control today. One of the

reasons. Your people did not believe that it was

possible for any people or race to accomplish what we

have within a couple of hundred years. The gentile is

stupid. WE are intelligent. I am going to be a very

important person in and around Washington and soon. I

intend to become nationally prominent. You are going

to hear and read about me in the future. I'm young and

have had the guts to tell you more than any other Jew

would ever dare to tell you -- at least publicly. I've

stuck my neck out, White. Some of what I have told you

is part of the inner, invisible world of Jewry.

W. Looking at you now as I denote your change, I see

you as a despicable bastard -- all of you . . . (Mr.

R. interrupts).

R. No one calls me a bastard and gets away with it!!

W. You are all contemptible, base and detestable ---

R. I'll knock your God damn head off if you call me a

bastard . . .

W. I wouldn't try it if I were you. I too have

friends, many of them would like a chance to get to

you so let's keep this on a formal basis as it was

intended at the beginning. (Mr. R. then said something

which I asked him to spell. He spelled O-Y V-A-Y, Oy

Vay, and added oy vay iz mir, and when asked what it

meant he said I would not understand, but I am

including it here because it is on the tape.

W. Many times when referring to a person being a Jew,

I have heard it said, 'Well, I understand he is a

Presbyterian or a Catholic.' So, I would like your

opinion or explanation. How do Jews feel about another

Jew who becomes a Christian Scientist or converts to

any other religion? Is he or she no longer a Jew?

R. That can best be answered -- well let me put it

this way. I don't know what your mother and father

were -- what nationality I mean . . .

W. My father was British -- English, and my mother was

German.

R. Well, if you decided to study Zionism or the Talmud

or actually wanted to become converted and attended

the synagogue would that erase your English or German

heritage?

W. Of course not -- but I wanted to hear it from a

learned Jew. What you have said then is that he or she

is always a Jew.

R. It's stupid -- stupid. We are what we are! No

matter what we join or adopt it doesn't change what we

ARE. I am a Jew and nothing can change me because I

take up another religion. Such stupidity!

W. But the Jews are a great part of this deceit.

R. We have a talent for confusing your issues.

W. You are masters of deceit and this cunning practice

of yours has allowed your people to infiltrate the

governments throughout the world.

R. Why not? Why shouldn't we take over the banks, the

universities, the church and the government if the

gentiles are not intelligent enough to run them? I

could not have talked this way a few years ago but now

it is different. There is nothing to undo our strategy

in the world today (1976) so I can speak much more freely.

What I've disclosed may help other Jews to speak out

if they have any guts. We are not a pusillanimous

race.

W. You're very sure of yourself and your people aren't

you?

R. We may be divided in many things, but nothing ever

actually separates us.

W. Who is WE?

R. My people, the Jews are 'as one' when it counts

most. No incident can ever divide us. (Down throughout

the centuries Jews have learned they cannot trust

other people. Thus, the Jewish racial bond is their

greatest bond.)

W. I have heard Jews fight each other with venom!

R. Ahh, that's entirely different. Sure we will fight

one another but as I say, when it counts most we're

'as one'. Our forte, White, is division and duplicity.

It is an infallible weapon and we are skillful --

perhaps perfectionists in its application. You don't

have the intelligence to compete.

W. But we have a culture that you Jews will never

understand or equal.

R. Jews have a family life. Our culture requires a

high standard in education. We establish standards so

that our kids exceed that of their parents. Our people

continue to show a dramatic educational advancement.

Our kids' success doesn't depend entirely on schools

but on the family and we are damn proud of these

accomplishments. You can't compete! More than 12,000

doctors are graduated from medical schools in the

United States every year and almost 10,000 of them are

Jews. Among the law students the Jewish percentage is

even higher. Jews are on such a solid foundation here

in the United States that any kind of opposition to

our control would only be temporary. You know we laugh

about the, six million story just like the story that

Christ was a Jew and the God's Chosen People story.

This should show people that we have a solidarity like

none other in the world. Jews have a closeness to

other Jews whom they have never seen or perhaps even

heard of.

W. Mr. Rosenthal, I hope you haven't lied to me in any

of this interview because if you did we could

retaliate on you. Understand?

R. What I have told you is true -- ALL of it. I don't

need to lie.

W. I have found the Jews' passion is greed, profit and

the destruction of Christianity. Am I correct?

R. I cannot speak for all Jews.

W. I'm speaking of the great majority of Jews. Am I

right?

R. Maybe most Jews feel that way -- but there's

nothing wrong with that!!

W. I think you just go on and on because there is a

bitterness within you and perhaps you say things that

even you do not believe. Some of the things you say

are almost unbelievable.

R. Well I don't give a good God damn what you believe.

I've given you honest answers and opinions. Now no

more questions. And don't forget our agreement -- if I

learn that the tapes are used other than what we

agreed upon you will suffer serious consequences. Do

you understand?

W. I understand. And now Mr. Rosenthal, here is the

balance of the money agreed upon for this interview.

-- FINIS --

Dear reader -- after the tape machine had been turned

off, I accused Harold Rosenthal of not living up to

our agreement in replying truthfully to my question as

to the Jews being God's Chosen people. He replied:

"We are god's chosen people . . . Most Jews do not

like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer -- so I

wasn't lying -- and we are his chosen people. Lucifer

is very much alive."

I was stunned. I had no further comment. I had watched

this arrogant, boastful person change at times like a

chameleon that changes its color. Many times he showed

a hatred -- yes, even a venom. At the conclusion I

felt unclean being around him. [BEGIN At PART 1 HERE]

“We must realise that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tension. By pounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by the Whites, we can mould them to our program. The terms ‘colonialism’ and ‘imperialism’ must be featured in our propaganda. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the Whites, we will endeavour to instil in the Whites a guilt complex for exploiting the Negroes. We will aid the Negroes to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sport and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negroes will be able to intermarry with the Whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.”

—Israel Cohen writing about the communist party’s objectives in A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century, published in 1912.

– Israel Cohen, (1912) A Racial Program For The Twentieth Century, Read from the US Congressional Records, June 7th 1957

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